Air box removal

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Wilso
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Re: Air box removal

Post by Wilso » Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:28 am

Bat304x wrote: Maybe Wilso will be able to recommend someone??? Apologies :roll:
Surely can :)

Firstly my settings:
Needles to clip 1 (race titanium needles if that matters)
Front main jet 160
Rear main jet 170
Idle air jets to 65 ( I need to double check this but sounds right)
Low speed jets to 45
Both pilots 2 1/4 turns out

This was an air / fuel dyno as the tyres don't allow rolling road (was on knobblies), but hard all the way through, SAS removed, CPR and FULL 2-1 side mount low slung exhaust, Mean sea altitude. If you want to go Road / Track you could go lower on the main but bike will run HOT, not for off road, more grunt (terrible MPG) go richer.

Take it to Steve Jordon's Racing in Bookham, he is a racer and knows CARB bikes, totally gets KTM's.
http://www.stevejordanmotorcycles.co.uk/dyno.asp

You would need to leave the bike there, he gets pretty stacked up, honestly comes across a bit aresey but gets alot of rich knobs in there but really does know what he's doing totally sorted my bike and pulls like a train all the way through.

644 Andy
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Re: Air box removal

Post by 644 Andy » Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:08 pm

Hey guys, I'm going to need to get the bike up to xbikes at some point i think, horrible trip from here though.
In other news I've been adjusting the suspension, and the rumours that the rear spring is too hard appear to be true for me, can't get comfortable with the amount of preload on the rear, on advice i backed off the preload from the stock setting and it feels better so i want to try a softer spring. The spring fitted is marked 140-215, any wisdom out there?
Cheers,
Andy

MultiDoc
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Re: Air box removal

Post by MultiDoc » Sat Dec 10, 2016 10:45 pm

644 Andy wrote:Hey guys, I'm going to need to get the bike up to xbikes at some point i think, horrible trip from here though.
In other news I've been adjusting the suspension, and the rumours that the rear spring is too hard appear to be true for me, can't get comfortable with the amount of preload on the rear, on advice i backed off the preload from the stock setting and it feels better so i want to try a softer spring. The spring fitted is marked 140-215, any wisdom out there?
Cheers,
Andy
Slight off topic, but mine is at Chris (Xbikes) for the last month. I'd be very very eager to see a comparative run on his dyno of your SE cause we're having trouble with mine (low on power, contemplating on diving into the engine)
KTM 950 SE
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WornSprocket
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Re: Air box removal

Post by WornSprocket » Sun Dec 11, 2016 9:45 am

Talk to Mark at BSD Performance regarding tuning, another top bloke.

I'm running a 12.0 rear spring (and very happy with it), the stock 14.0 was way too hard. I couldn't find the 12.0 in the UK so I got one custom wound by Cannon Racecraft in Oklahoma, great service.

tomasn
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Re: Air box removal

Post by tomasn » Sun Dec 11, 2016 1:25 pm

Tractive suspension has 130Nm, but i didn't feel any noticeable difference


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WornSprocket
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Re: Air box removal

Post by WornSprocket » Sun Dec 11, 2016 3:50 pm

I guess it all depends on how heavy you are, how heavy the bike is and how much preload you have.

The 14.0 was way too hard for me, with that spring I couldn't get close to the static and rider sag values I wanted.

With the 12.0 I'm still not quite at the traditional 10%/33% used for a lighter enduro bike, but I'm close enough to be good for me and make some allowance for luggage, trail tools etc. Plus (and more importantly) the bike feels and handles better.

644 Andy
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Re: Air box removal

Post by 644 Andy » Tue Dec 13, 2016 9:49 pm

Just a confirmation question the 140-215 rear spring, is that in nm or kg/mm? I was reading nm then found the slavens racing site talks mm/kg.
Looks like there are people who can make springs in the UK, anyone interested?

WornSprocket
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Re: Air box removal

Post by WornSprocket » Wed Dec 14, 2016 9:33 am

The spring description for the SE is decoded like this:

14.0 215-59 D=13.0

14.0 is spring rate in kg/mm
215 is the overall length
59 is the internal diameter in mm
13.0 is the diameter of the spring wire in mm

My 12.0 spring hence has a rate of 12.0kg/mm.

I found various people who could wind springs in the UK, but none could guarantee to hit the rate (12.0kg/mm) that I wanted, or those that could were prohibitively expensive.

Bat304x
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Re: Air box removal

Post by Bat304x » Thu Feb 09, 2017 5:21 pm

Hi all.

@644andy any news on the airbox removal? did u manage to get it dyno'd? any power curves to show off?

Cheers

644 Andy
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Re: Air box removal

Post by 644 Andy » Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:26 pm

No developments yet sadly, I've entered a 3 day Rally in Portugal at the end of March, as I may be taking the 950 I've not been too keen on changing it, I know ti'll be fine as is and don't want to risk.
Need to finish off fettling my old 525 and see how i feel about it as a rally bike again.

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